[Zero] Married again

Hey all,

Well, Richard and I got married again on Friday. Only this time it’s legal in the state of California! It was quite special (even the second time!) and all the volunteers at city hall were so incredibly helpful and joyous.

Pix here: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=wqs0xw7.54hz6v37&x=0&y=877bno&localeid=en_US

Pete

Re: [Zero] rich quacking like a duck

OK! I CONFESS!!!! Just Please Not the Comfy Chair!
(and duh--who asked who sent it out? Let's see, Doug says that the person
who wrote it asks that SHE remain nameless. Doug is married to a zero.
Hmmmm. Well Watson, who could it be?)

Of the two sites Doug did find (oh the horror!) one did note that it was a
hoax. Also, Rich's name was never in the blurb--it was the original zero
message's timing, I believe, that put it together. Or I might have had
Rich's name in the stuff around the bank loan email and my parody of it--the
intent being something to "cheer him up" after orals (well I failed
miserably at that I guess! Sorry!)

The email was forwarded outside of the email list without by name
(thankfully), nor the original, not the reason for the parody--to make Rich
laugh--they were all removed. And thus it made it's way across America and
back. Foley from Brown (or VanDam--one of them) even asked Brooks about it)

As an aside--I did Confess TO Dr. Brooks how the story "happened" and that I
was the author--I felt I owed him that, as the story could be interpreted as
malicious (instead of just stupid). I was already working, and I was
absolutely MORTIFIED when all the reports started coming back (cheers to
Rich for maintaining a straight face when Dr. B. read it at the weekly
projects meeting though--I was long gone but heard about it). Dr. B. was
extremely gracious when I 'fessed up, I will admit. Just as gracious as
when several o fus walked into Sitterson at 1:00am with SOMEONE (Hello TRB)
trying to hide a PYLON behind his back, and all of us trying to act sober,
which we most certainly were not. There is nothing more obvious than drunk
people trying to act sober! He graciously pretended not to notice. "No sir.
We don't know anything about a fire alarm going off" (really. We didn't. We
hadn't been there. And we certainly did not EXPECT to see Dr. Brooks there
at 1:00am!)

Somewhere I have the original and all the places it came from....It took 2
weeks for the reports to start coming back. A lesson in Urban Legends! I'm
surprised it's still out there though! Yikes!

Ta,
CV

p.s. I ran into Dr. B at an independent schools conference a couple years
ago. All he knew about me was that I went to UNC. Let's not remind him of
this!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zero-bounces@spoetzl.net [mailto:zero-bounces@spoetzl.net] On
> Behalf Of Cathie Vishnevsky & Doug Lowman
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:36 AM
> To: 'Dave Chen'; 'List Zero'
> Subject: Re: [Zero] rich quacking like a duck
>
> With the right keywords - Google is your friend (or enemy)...
>
> Here's a copy of the made up story that went 'round the world and back
> to
> Dr. Brooks via a number of his colleagues at Brown, MIT, etc. I believe
> ...
>
> Here are a few links that contains the posting after it was forwarded
> around
> a bit ....
> http://www.subgenius.com/subg-digest/v3/0088.html,
> http://homes.cerias.purdue.edu/~spaf/Yucks/V2/msg00029.html
>
> The text included below:
>
> Man Strips, Quacks After Committee Denies His Orals
>
> The Associated Press
> CHAPEL HILL -- An upset graduate student was arrested after he
> stripped
> off his clothes and quacked like a duck when his orals
> application
> was denied.
> "It was a first for us," Department spokesperson Fred Brooks
> said.
> The unidentified almost 30-year-old man was seated naked in a
> professor's office in the graphics department when police arrived
> Thursday. Officials said he replied with duck quacks when
> questioned
>
> by police.
> After his arrest, police said he caused $1,000 damage to a police
> vehicle by butting his head into a window frame and kicking a
> door.
> Magistrate Gabe Quintanilla ordered the man held for psychiatric
> evaluation.
> Committee officials would not disclose why the man's orals were
> rejected.
>
> The author said she would like to remain anonymous....
>
> Funny thing, this fake news article was based on an article about a
> bank
> customer who was denied a
> loan or something - it later turned out to be a fake as well.
>
> - Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zero-bounces@spoetzl.net [mailto:zero-bounces@spoetzl.net] On
> Behalf
> Of Dave Chen
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:52 PM
> To: List Zero
> Subject: [Zero] rich quacking like a duck
>
> Does anybody have a copy of or link to that story about Rich quacking
> like a duck?
>
> dave
>
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Re: [Zero] rich quacking like a duck

With the right keywords - Google is your friend (or enemy)...

Here's a copy of the made up story that went 'round the world and back to
Dr. Brooks via a number of his colleagues at Brown, MIT, etc. I believe ...

Here are a few links that contains the posting after it was forwarded around
a bit ....

http://www.subgenius.com/subg-digest/v3/0088.html,
http://homes.cerias.purdue.edu/~spaf/Yucks/V2/msg00029.html

The text included below:

Man Strips, Quacks After Committee Denies His Orals

The Associated Press
CHAPEL HILL -- An upset graduate student was arrested after he
stripped
off his clothes and quacked like a duck when his orals application
was denied.
"It was a first for us," Department spokesperson Fred Brooks said.
The unidentified almost 30-year-old man was seated naked in a
professor's office in the graphics department when police arrived
Thursday. Officials said he replied with duck quacks when questioned

by police.
After his arrest, police said he caused $1,000 damage to a police
vehicle by butting his head into a window frame and kicking a door.
Magistrate Gabe Quintanilla ordered the man held for psychiatric
evaluation.
Committee officials would not disclose why the man's orals were
rejected.

The author said she would like to remain anonymous....

Funny thing, this fake news article was based on an article about a bank
customer who was denied a
loan or something - it later turned out to be a fake as well.

- Doug

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Of Dave Chen
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:52 PM
To: List Zero
Subject: [Zero] rich quacking like a duck

Does anybody have a copy of or link to that story about Rich quacking
like a duck?

dave

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Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Lime golfing? Or was that another year? I had a memory lapse that semester...

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From: Peter Litwinowicz <pete@revisionfx.com>
To: Zero List <zero@spoetzl.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 4:17:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

It's the pictures from the next night we have to be careful about … mudslides … roller skates …

Ah, you shouldn't have said anything Mr. Palmer. Now I need to scan those in as well.

You should be afraid!
Pete

Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

From Randy Brown:
Rich, that is beautful. Thanks!!! And yes, if you have the Ghetto Halloween invite that would be awesome, it may even inspire me to archeologically extricate the photos I have from that excellent event (who could ever forget Jeff Creech demonstrating the "standing chair jump"?

5 snaps from that fabled 1986 party here:
http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=wqs0xw7.bdsqt7vn&x=0&y=-fab6zo&localeid=en_US

Okay Randy, let’s have yours!

Enjoy!
Pete

Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Sorry to burst the bubble, guys, but if a Euro-woman thought you were all "cute" and "american" back in the 1980s, she was likely comparing you to Ronald Reagan or Michael Jackson, our giant cultural symbols of the day, neither of which could possibly end well. Then again, if she was really Euro-fun and not faking the accent to amuse a bunch of CS geeks, she may have been comparing you to Duran Duran.

I did put “cute” in quotes, because I knew definitions would vary between the Euro-woman and myself.

And being to compared to Duran Duran is great if she was thinking Simon LeBon. Cute-as-a-button that eurotrash piece of work! (yes, I called him eurotrash, in a good way!)

Pete

Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Sorry to burst the bubble, guys, but if a Euro-woman thought you were all "cute" and "american" back in the 1980s, she was likely comparing you to Ronald Reagan or Michael Jackson, our giant cultural symbols of the day, neither of which could possibly end well. Then again, if she was really Euro-fun and not faking the accent to amuse a bunch of CS geeks, she may have been comparing you to Duran Duran.

--------------------------
Mary McFarlane, PhD
xzm3@cdc.gov
404 639 8309


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From: zero-bounces@spoetzl.net <zero-bounces@spoetzl.net>
To: Rich Holloway <rlholloway@bellsouth.net>; Zero List <zero@spoetzl.net>
Sent: Sun Jun 08 13:57:59 2008
Subject: Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

* A 'best costume prize' consisting of an A&P Frozen Pizza (possibly won by Halla Abdalla-- don't remember)



No No NO. The best costume prize was won by some European chick (french I believe) who stumbled into our party through no fault of her own (came with someone from the department, but was not a CS geek) who thought we are all "cute" and very "american". And at the time I seem to remember that her translation of what we were saying was probably NOT the same as we intended.

She probably thought we wanted her to cook a pizza for us! ;-)

Pete

Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

• A 'best costume prize' consisting of an A&P Frozen Pizza (possibly won by Halla Abdalla-- don't remember)
  

No No NO. The best costume prize was won by some European chick (french I believe) who stumbled into our party through no fault of her own (came with someone from the department, but was not a CS geek) who thought we are all “cute” and very “american”. And at the time I seem to remember that her translation of what we were saying was probably NOT the same as we intended.

She probably thought we wanted her to cook a pizza for us! ;-)

Pete

Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Correction: The ZeroHalloweenParty would have been in '86. I was in Benin having a different sort of Halloween party altogether in '87. (A good one, too-- but that's another story.)

rich holloway wrote:

Mary-- Having just returned from Tom Palmer's house minutes ago, I can report that a) Matt Palmer is waaaayyyy taller than his father; b) Alexa is already (at 15) taller than Barbara, and c) this is all quite frightening. We can generalize from these 3 observations that: a) Zero children are generally larger than their parents, b) are growing at an alarming rate, and c) this should be a cause for General Alarm. Please notify the authorities in your area immediately.

Bill- A craft beer inspired and fueled my mission to fish out the zero paperatti that I scanned, for what it's worth. And as it turns out, I preemptively scanned the Halloween invite just for hysterical porpoises, so it's attached for Randy's and anyone else's viewing pleasure.

Randy-- I think this one predates the ZeroHalloweenParty you're talking about, since it would have been '87-- this event was marked by:

• Random miniature pumpkins appearing all over New West Hall for the week prior
  
• Pete dancing/flailing and knocking over a lamp
• Dick (and Eric) showing up spontaneously all the way from California unannounced, dressed as Bartles and James
• A 'best costume prize' consisting of an A&P Frozen Pizza (possibly won by Halla Abdalla-- don't remember)
• An abrupt exit from the ghetto after the "lamp incident" in order to avoid the fire marshal and make it to Franklin Street (favorite costume seen there: a group doing the coconut-banging troupe from the Holy Grail, asking if it was an african or european swallow)
• Some other stuff I don't remember.
  

Bill O. Gallmeister wrote:

Indeed. "Zero" was an invention of the Year Of Rich Etcetera's Absence, a.k.a. "The Young Bucks Go Nuts", a.a.k.a. "We're gonna rename SACM too, so there".

The SACM rename was at least instigated by me, though it may well be that you guys bore the brunt of the grand decision that it was. I was (and still am) very anal about names in computer-related entities, and it irked me that SACM really had nothing to do with the central mission of CSA (or whatever it ended up being-- none of the names that made sense were actually catchy-- sound like a familiar problem?).


Oooop-- I'm out of information.

--------------------------------------------

I'm head-scratchin' about where "zero" came from though. Perhaps I was drunk when the name was concocted. It is certainly possible. Anyways, perhaps ZERO refers to:

Zero quarters surrendered due to superfluous Geek Talk after 10 PM on Thursdays
Zero chance of any member having any sort of social engagement (other than with a microVax) at 10 PM on a Thursday.
Zero probability of craft beers
Zero cash in pocket after trip to Heeeznot and subsequent pilgrimage to Grease Cathedral whose name I forget
Zero PQ (Personality Quotient, a measure of potential success in marketing or corporate leadership. Inversely related to DQ: Drooler Quotient)
Zero chance of in-tunedness during acapella renditions of famous hits of the 60s.

There may be more. I'll think about it. There is probability 1 of craft beers in my outside fridge, so I admit to a certain distractedness.

Old? Me? My 14 year old just went to his 8th-grade graduation dance. I am happy to report substantial genetic improvement in PQ, apparently.

----- Original Message ----
From: rich holloway <rlholloway@bellsouth.net>
To: Jeff Templon <jeff.templon@gmail.com>
Cc: zero@spoetzl.net; barbara holloway <holloways@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 3:51:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Pardon the delay, but I have been able to successfully transition the following paper artifacts into digital form:

• Exhibit 1 (zero_beer.jpg): A plea from one early zero (yers truly) to other zeroes to go imbibe. The lengths I had to go to in those days to get people to go out for a beer-- sheesh! This may be the earliest remaining evidence of Thursday night drinking in zero history. Could be 85/86/87-- the brain cells containing this information have long since shuffled off this mortal coil [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_coil].
  

• Exhibit 2 (jeff_benin_drawing.jp): A crude Macpaint drawing from one Jeffrey A Templon circa 1987 presaging Barbara's and my "big adventure" in Afreeka.

In my archives, I also found the invitation to the Ghetto Halloween Party of Doom (which featured magazine collage art) and the handwritten map for the 86 Caswell beach trip (remember handwritten maps??). If any old-timers are interested in these, let me know and I'll scan/send them.

One last point: In the early days, the list was called the 'brain-dead' list, if I recall correctly. i think BOG turned it into the 'zero' list.

Are we old yet?

I think so.

Rich,
whose scanner caught fire as he was saving these images to disk. it is now ON FIRE (tm).




Jeff Templon wrote:

Yo,

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:54 PM, <howardlander@mindspring.com> wrote:

For Bill, Cathy and myself et al it was a Masters in Computer Science at UNC-CH. But one of the things I like about this list is how much it has spread out. It is sort if impressive that after 20 or so years, this list is still as active as it is.

Yeah. It's actually a bit older than 20 years. I went digging off in archive land, but found nothing earlier than 1989. I am pretty sure Rich went to Benin in '87, and the list predates that. I am pretty sure it didn't exist before 1985 though.

You're right, it's still pretty active for a list that old! The messages are slightly less weird these days, I guess somebody must have given Crad some tranquilizers.

JT

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Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Mary--  Having just returned from Tom Palmer's house minutes ago, I can report that a) Matt Palmer is waaaayyyy taller than his father; b) Alexa is already (at 15) taller than Barbara, and c) this is all quite frightening.  We can generalize from these 3 observations that: a) Zero children are generally larger than their parents, b) are growing at an alarming rate, and c) this should be a cause for General Alarm.  Please notify the authorities in your area immediately.

Bill- A craft beer inspired and fueled my mission to fish out the zero paperatti that I scanned, for what it's worth.  And as it turns out, I preemptively scanned the Halloween invite just for hysterical porpoises, so it's attached for Randy's and anyone else's viewing pleasure. 

Randy-- I think this one predates the ZeroHalloweenParty you're talking about, since it would have been '87-- this event was marked by:

• Random miniature pumpkins appearing all over New West Hall for the week prior
  
• Pete dancing/flailing and knocking over a lamp
• Dick (and Eric) showing up spontaneously all the way from California unannounced, dressed as Bartles and James
• A 'best costume prize' consisting of an A&P Frozen Pizza (possibly won by Halla Abdalla-- don't remember)
• An abrupt exit from the ghetto after the "lamp incident" in order to avoid the fire marshal and make it to Franklin Street (favorite costume seen there: a group doing the coconut-banging troupe from the Holy Grail, asking if it was an african or european swallow)
• Some other stuff I don't remember.
  

Bill O. Gallmeister wrote:

Indeed.  "Zero" was an invention of the Year Of Rich Etcetera's Absence, a.k.a. "The Young Bucks Go Nuts", a.a.k.a. "We're gonna rename SACM too, so there".

The SACM rename was at least instigated by me, though it may well be that you guys bore the brunt of the grand decision that it was.  I was (and still am) very anal about names in computer-related entities, and it irked me that SACM really had nothing to do with the central mission of CSA (or whatever it ended up being-- none of the names that made sense were actually catchy-- sound like a familiar problem?).


Oooop-- I'm out of information.

--------------------------------------------

I'm head-scratchin' about where "zero" came from though.  Perhaps I was drunk when the name was concocted.  It is certainly possible.  Anyways, perhaps ZERO refers to:

Zero quarters surrendered due to superfluous Geek Talk after 10 PM on Thursdays
Zero chance of any member having any sort of social engagement (other than with a microVax) at 10 PM on a Thursday.
Zero probability of craft beers
Zero cash in pocket after trip to Heeeznot and subsequent pilgrimage to Grease Cathedral whose name I forget
Zero PQ  (Personality Quotient, a measure of potential success in marketing or corporate leadership.  Inversely related to DQ:  Drooler Quotient)
Zero chance of in-tunedness during acapella renditions of famous hits of the 60s.

There may be more.  I'll think about it.  There is probability 1 of craft beers in my outside fridge, so I admit to a certain distractedness.

Old?  Me?  My 14 year old just went to his 8th-grade graduation dance.  I am happy to report substantial genetic improvement in PQ, apparently.

----- Original Message ----
From: rich holloway <rlholloway@bellsouth.net>
To: Jeff Templon <jeff.templon@gmail.com>
Cc: zero@spoetzl.net; barbara holloway <holloways@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 3:51:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Pardon the delay, but I have been able to successfully transition the following paper artifacts into digital form:

• Exhibit 1 (zero_beer.jpg): A plea from one early zero (yers truly) to other zeroes to go imbibe.  The lengths I had to go to in those days to get people to go out for a beer-- sheesh!  This may be the earliest remaining evidence of Thursday night drinking in zero history.  Could be 85/86/87-- the brain cells containing this information have long since shuffled off this mortal coil [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_coil].
  

• Exhibit 2 (jeff_benin_drawing.jp): A crude Macpaint drawing from one Jeffrey A Templon circa 1987 presaging Barbara's and my "big adventure" in Afreeka.

In my archives, I also found the invitation to the Ghetto Halloween Party of Doom (which featured magazine collage art) and the handwritten map for the 86 Caswell beach trip (remember handwritten maps??).  If any old-timers are interested in these, let me know and I'll scan/send them.

One last point: In the early days, the list was called the 'brain-dead' list, if I recall correctly.  i think BOG turned it into the 'zero' list.

Are we old yet?

I think so.

Rich,
whose scanner caught fire as he was saving these images to disk.  it is now ON FIRE (tm).




Jeff Templon wrote:

Yo,

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:54 PM, <howardlander@mindspring.com> wrote:

For Bill, Cathy and myself et al it was a Masters in Computer Science at UNC-CH. But one of the things I like about this list is how much it has spread out. It is sort if impressive that after 20 or so years, this list is still as active as it is.

Yeah.  It's actually a bit older than 20 years.  I went digging off in archive land, but found nothing earlier than 1989.  I am pretty sure Rich went to Benin in '87, and the list predates that.  I am pretty sure it didn't exist before 1985 though.

 

You're right, it's still pretty active for a list that old!  The messages are slightly less weird these days, I guess somebody must have given Crad some tranquilizers.

                    JT

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Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Indeed.  "Zero" was an invention of the Year Of Rich Etcetera's Absence, a.k.a. "The Young Bucks Go Nuts", a.a.k.a. "We're gonna rename SACM too, so there".

I'm head-scratchin' about where "zero" came from though.  Perhaps I was drunk when the name was concocted.  It is certainly possible.  Anyways, perhaps ZERO refers to:

Zero quarters surrendered due to superfluous Geek Talk after 10 PM on Thursdays
Zero chance of any member having any sort of social engagement (other than with a microVax) at 10 PM on a Thursday.
Zero probability of craft beers
Zero cash in pocket after trip to Heeeznot and subsequent pilgrimage to Grease Cathedral whose name I forget
Zero PQ  (Personality Quotient, a measure of potential success in marketing or corporate leadership.  Inversely related to DQ:  Drooler Quotient)
Zero chance of in-tunedness during acapella renditions of famous hits of the 60s.

There may be more.  I'll think about it.  There is probability 1 of craft beers in my outside fridge, so I admit to a certain distractedness.

Old?  Me?  My 14 year old just went to his 8th-grade graduation dance.  I am happy to report substantial genetic improvement in PQ, apparently.

----- Original Message ----
From: rich holloway <rlholloway@bellsouth.net>
To: Jeff Templon <jeff.templon@gmail.com>
Cc: zero@spoetzl.net; barbara holloway <holloways@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 3:51:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Pardon the delay, but I have been able to successfully transition the following paper artifacts into digital form:

• Exhibit 1 (zero_beer.jpg): A plea from one early zero (yers truly) to other zeroes to go imbibe.  The lengths I had to go to in those days to get people to go out for a beer-- sheesh!  This may be the earliest remaining evidence of Thursday night drinking in zero history.  Could be 85/86/87-- the brain cells containing this information have long since shuffled off this mortal coil [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_coil].
  

• Exhibit 2 (jeff_benin_drawing.jp): A crude Macpaint drawing from one Jeffrey A Templon circa 1987 presaging Barbara's and my "big adventure" in Afreeka.

In my archives, I also found the invitation to the Ghetto Halloween Party of Doom (which featured magazine collage art) and the handwritten map for the 86 Caswell beach trip (remember handwritten maps??).  If any old-timers are interested in these, let me know and I'll scan/send them.

One last point: In the early days, the list was called the 'brain-dead' list, if I recall correctly.  i think BOG turned it into the 'zero' list.

Are we old yet?

I think so.

Rich,
whose scanner caught fire as he was saving these images to disk.  it is now ON FIRE (tm).




Jeff Templon wrote:

Yo,

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:54 PM, <howardlander@mindspring.com> wrote:

For Bill, Cathy and myself et al it was a Masters in Computer Science at UNC-CH. But one of the things I like about this list is how much it has spread out. It is sort if impressive that after 20 or so years, this list is still as active as it is.

Yeah.  It's actually a bit older than 20 years.  I went digging off in archive land, but found nothing earlier than 1989.  I am pretty sure Rich went to Benin in '87, and the list predates that.  I am pretty sure it didn't exist before 1985 though.

 

You're right, it's still pretty active for a list that old!  The messages are slightly less weird these days, I guess somebody must have given Crad some tranquilizers.

                    JT

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Re: [Zero] 20 years and counting

Pardon the delay, but I have been able to successfully transition the following paper artifacts into digital form:

• Exhibit 1 (zero_beer.jpg): A plea from one early zero (yers truly) to other zeroes to go imbibe.  The lengths I had to go to in those days to get people to go out for a beer-- sheesh!  This may be the earliest remaining evidence of Thursday night drinking in zero history.  Could be 85/86/87-- the brain cells containing this information have long since shuffled off this mortal coil [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_coil].
  

• Exhibit 2 (jeff_benin_drawing.jp): A crude Macpaint drawing from one Jeffrey A Templon circa 1987 presaging Barbara's and my "big adventure" in Afreeka.

In my archives, I also found the invitation to the Ghetto Halloween Party of Doom (which featured magazine collage art) and the handwritten map for the 86 Caswell beach trip (remember handwritten maps??).  If any old-timers are interested in these, let me know and I'll scan/send them.

One last point: In the early days, the list was called the 'brain-dead' list, if I recall correctly.  i think BOG turned it into the 'zero' list.

Are we old yet?

I think so.

Rich,
whose scanner caught fire as he was saving these images to disk.  it is now ON FIRE (tm).




Jeff Templon wrote:

Yo,

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:54 PM, <howardlander@mindspring.com> wrote:

For Bill, Cathy and myself et al it was a Masters in Computer Science at UNC-CH. But one of the things I like about this list is how much it has spread out. It is sort if impressive that after 20 or so years, this list is still as active as it is.

Yeah.  It's actually a bit older than 20 years.  I went digging off in archive land, but found nothing earlier than 1989.  I am pretty sure Rich went to Benin in '87, and the list predates that.  I am pretty sure it didn't exist before 1985 though.

 

You're right, it's still pretty active for a list that old!  The messages are slightly less weird these days, I guess somebody must have given Crad some tranquilizers.

                    JT

 
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